Last night, Tina Turner appeared on ‘Oprah’s Next Chapter’, her first televised interview since her retirement from the concert stage in 2009. The program focused mainly on her life after hanging up her dancing shoes: the gaining of Swiss citizenship , her Vogue cover and of course her recent marriage to long-time boyfriend Erwin Bach. In a rare public appearance, the newlywed Bach also sat down together with his wife to reflect on their 25 year relationship. Oprah Winfrey not only asked Tina about recent events, but also about Tina’s unhappy first marriage to Ike Turner. The rock star also looked back on her last ‘farewell’ tour in 2009. The question on everybody’s lips: will there be a return to the spotlights? While Tina didn’t give a definite ‘no’, it seems more unlikely than ever, with Tina claiming that during her last world tour she was often ‘tired of singing and dancing’. Continue reading for the most important topics discussed during the television show, as well as several clips.
“Oprah knows to pull you out of retirement… and your honeymoon!” laughs Tina Turner as the show begins. Oprah starts with the topic of the moment: Tina Turner and Erwin Bach’s wedding. And the obvious question: Why at 73 did she feel the need to get married?
“I started consolidating. I got rid of the house in France, property in America. Everything that was costly, I got rid of.” Not forgetting that “if something would happen in life, Erwin would have no say.”
And of course, there was also something else to taking in account that Tina didn’t think of at first, if something happens to Erwin, she won’t get his money…
How hard was it to hang up those dancing shoes?
“Oprah, my friend, very easy, I wanted to retire and not worry. That’s what that tour did for me. At that moment, I had a revelation: I’m going home now. I’m going home, in a big way. Not just the house. I was going to a place where I decided for the last stage of my life where I wanted to be.”
On May 5th 2009, Tina ended her last tour in Sheffield, was that final tour different from the others?
“Nobody ever knew how much I was tired of singing and dancing. It’s work! My body had started to react to working with high blood pressure. I started taking medication and it slowed me down. I couldn’t get into that second gear, to fly! I couldn’t hit my notes! Dammit, I wanted to hit those notes! I had to really fake those notes, somehow. But I managed it! It took every drop of life and energy out of me and it would take until next evening for me to restore that energy. So, I did nothing than that so I could complete, continue.”
Even if it had been more than 35 years since Ike and Tina Turner separated, Oprah couldn’t help herself asking Tina how she felt about Ike at this stage of her life:
“I didn’t feel anything about Ike, whether he was dead or alive, at that time. It was twenty years. The memory was totally gone from my mind. So when I heard he had died, it was like hearing about a person I didn’t know anymore.”
What about her own death?
“Even when talking about when it’s time to go, to leave to another planet. I’m excited about that, because I’m curious! I’m not excited to die, but I don’t regret it when it’s time for me! I’ve done what I came here to do. Now it’s pleasure.” Tina Turner says her happiness and serenity are due to to the fact that she “found happiness for myself, and I think it is because I desire nothing!”
How do you get to the space where you desire nothing?
“First it is a journey. You’re born, and then you go through the journey and then you leave the journey. How you manage the journey is very important. I stayed on track, I stayed on course. I had a wish: my wish was to arrive here, where I am today. I’m happier than I ever imagined what happiness was! Happiness was always material things. A feeling comes over you of wellness, no schedule, nobody bothering you, nothing in your way. Just that moment of you sitting there where you want to be.”
Earlier this year, Tina became a Swiss citizen, Oprah asked her why she relinquished her US citizenship:
“I feel totally safe there, I like how the Swiss are living. I felt like I had finished living in America.”
And when Erwin Bach is asked to join the two ladies here is what he has to say:
“I didn’t read the book (I, Tina), it’s hard to hear, read the past of a person you love when this comes up so I’ve always think that Tina one day will erase this. I think it’s time to close the book, to close the chapter and I am sure after this interview she will!”